On Tue, 29 Sep 1998 17:58:13 -0700 Kevin Collins
<collinsksprintmail> writes:

>You can pretty much rank the tuners/mail order suppliers like this:
>
>1. New Dimensions, Virtual World (tie)
>2-?.  Virtually everybody else, except:
>999.  EIP Tuning
>
>You will find about a 99.99% satisfication with either #1... everybody
>else ranks from "ok" to downright crooked.


Im jaded, but ND has never done for me what VWP has, so my list would
easily be:

1) Virtual World Parts

The rest would be not in order, but something like

2) Mark  Adriondac <SP> Auto Brokers
3) Velocity Sports Tuning
4) ND

There's others out there that I either forgot to mention (cant remember)
or have had no experience with them that would probably qualify on the
above list.
Then there is my shit list.

SHITTERS TOP 5 LIST:
1) Parts Place.<---fuck these motherfuckers! (sorry for the harshness)
2) EIP Tuning.   "L" 4 Loozers!  Avoid.
3) Rapid Parts. (Long story, has something to do with WF.) Avoid.
4) Autotech.	Assholes. Avoid.
5) Strictly Foreign.    CAPTAIN COCK runs this place. Avoid.


I don't know about you, but im feeling much better now. :)

I've never, ever, made a good friend by being a customer before. Mike has
helped me in so many ways with my Roc that I wont even go into detail but
without him, I would more than likely still be driving a Datsun right
now. He opened my eyes to the aftermarket world for VW's as well as gave
me so much insight to what makes these things tick not to mention finding
me a JH motor the same day I called AND found a place for me to get my
tranny rebuilt for an affordable price....
Just the tip of the iceberg of what he's done for me and for that, he has
earned my loyalty as a customer, and a friend.
Kisses everybody!

   Shawn Meze <gawd that was mushy..>
86' Jetta GLi           82' Scirocco GTi
The Fastest, Quickest, Cleanest and
best looking Scirocco in all of San Diego!
http://www.Geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/1308/index.htm

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At 01:04 AM 9/30/98 EDT, Shawn C Meze wrote:
>
>Im jaded, but ND has never done for me what VWP has, so my list would
>easily be:
>
>1) Virtual World Parts
>
>The rest would be not in order, but something like
>
>2) Mark  Adriondac <SP> Auto Brokers
>3) Velocity Sports Tuning
>4) ND


I basically agree - "basically" because I've never dealt directly with
Mark/Adirondack.  Mike Potter is fantastic - I've bugged him with stupid
questions that the other shops either cannot answer(most) or just don't
want to answer(again, most).  Mike has put up with my hairsplitting over
time, and while I am _very_ loyal to Velocity, Mike will get the first call
from here on in.  I've had good dealings with Velocity over the past few
years - when they don't know, they tell me.  I like that.  New
Dimensions(one of their reps, anyhow) once told me that "they don't get
into the racer stuff."  OK, I completely understand that, but it did not
prompt me to call back.  Never really dealt with Autotech, seemed too
expensive to me, and they use the T word too much(tuning, aargh, I hate
that word - SportTuned?  What the heck is that?;).  Anyhow, not into
bashing the other companies - let's just say that the guy at ND was
honest(but I've never called them since, he was not rude, just factual.  No
racer stuff.  OK!  Bye...), Velocity has treated me right, and Mike Potter
has risen to the top of my list as far as people who know their stuff - I
can figure out WHAT I want, I need someone who *understands* what I want.
A lot of places can't, or have not had the need to figure oddish things out.

I like Mike.  I like Jeff & JeremyVelocity.  Velocity seems to have a good
policy - if the moron autocrosser asks a question that you cannot answer,
get Jeff or Jeremy.  I like that.  "Hi, I need to know <something
obscure>."  Uhhh, hang on......"this is Jeff...."  It is good, and as I
said, if he does not know, he won't try to snowball me - that's worth a
LOT.  IMHO, stick with Velocity and Mike.  Velocity's shipping department
has given some friends fits, although I have NEVER had a problem - could be
due to the fact that I tend to deal with Jeff 9 times out of 10, but who
knows.  Mailorder is sketchy anyhow, if you NEED something, get it shipped
overnight.  Don't wait until the last minute(I've gotten much better at
this, used to be a problem for me).

Lastly, IMHO, don't shop for price alone.  I know guys who simply shop for
PRICE.  Eh, I can comprehend that - I'm not exactly affluent, but OTOH,
supporting the same places every time will pay off in the long run.  I
intially chose Velocity based on a combination of price and reputation -
and I've been happy.  I know guys who have bought a little here, a little
there, and when crunch time comes, no one "knows" them.  I buy most of my
stockish/maintenance parts from a local shop - been dealing with him for 6
years or so.  Great guy.  I needed a voltage regulator in a bad way
recently - was on my way to pick up a paycheck, had no cash on me.  Went
there, got it, installed it in their parkinglot(glad I made it to the
shop), drove to my employer, the bank, back to the shop and paid them.
Can't just walk into any old shop and get that - over the years, he has
come to know that I'm going to come back.  I get decent deals there, to
boot.  No complaints.  I once needed rear shocks(I think it was
shocks....), called Velocity.  He did not KNOW if he had them, understood
that it was important.  An hour later, Jeff called back, he had "gotten"
some, was going to ship  them.  I don't know what he had to do - probably
call a local distributor & have them dropshipped(no big deal), but that was
very nice of him to do.  Chances are, it took him minutes to "find" them,
but he DID.  Obviously, he wanted to sell them to me, but OTOH, many places
would have told me they were placing an order "next week" or something.
Find a good shop - Potter/VWP, Velocity, whomever, and stick with them.
Same with tire shops.  In the long run, it WILL pay off!


I.Mannix
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