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What should my first mods be?

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[gti-vr6] top 1 mod Keith Boyd <keithmediaaccess> Fri, 28 Aug 1998 10:50:56 -0700
Re: Want to mod? [gti-vr6] <aqnpanix> Fri, 3 Aug 2001 11:55:09 -0400 (EDT)



From gti-vr6-ownerdev.tivoli Fri Aug 28 11:48 CDT 1998
From: Keith Boyd <keithmediaaccess>
To: gti-vr6dev.tivoli
Subject: [gti-vr6] top 1 mod
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 10:50:56 -0700
 
For those that haven't modified your GTI yet for fear that you won't get
good bang for your buck, let me just say that you NEED NEW TIRES!

I just got my P-Zeros installed today and the difference is night and day.
You won't even believe what good performance tires do for our cars, even
with the crappy stock suspension. Unfortunately the Dunlop SP8000 has been
discontinued, so IMO, the best bang for your buck would be the Zeros. $110
a pop at Discont Tire for 205-50-15 *and* they gave me $100 for those
crappy GA's. You need some. Get them. Soon.

Then buy a Garrett chip.

-Keith
Pirelli Evangelist
98.5 White P-Zero/Garrett v.10 Edition
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Subject: Re: Want to mod? [gti-vr6]
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 11:55:09 -0400 (EDT)
 
  [ Apologies to all: this is a much-hashed question.  I am posting
  this to the list to generate some more discussion, which I will
  then add to the "FAQ" list in the library. ]

Cc737egavcs wrote:
> Hi all,
>    I am new to the list and I was wondering if al the expert on the list can
> give me some advice on what to upgrade on my 98 GTI VR6.
[...]
> Chris Chiu
> 98 GTI VR6

  It depends on your priorities.  If you want to look cool & ricey
  (nothing wrong with that), obviously go for big wheels and an
  exhaust.  Big wheels were one of my first mods and I never
  regretted it.  (However, now that I have been there & done that,
  if I were to do it again, I would do tires first.)

  If you want more power, my recommendation is to save money for
  cams or a supercharger.  The "usual" mods of chip, filter, exhaust,
  etc.  does not do much for the VR6, which has a fairly inefficient
  intake tract.  You can, of course, change the exhaust, filter,
  etc.  first, but set your goal beforehand ("I will only get cams",
  "I will get a turbo", "I will get a supercharger", etc.) and make
  your mods with your final goal in mind.

  If you want better handling, it's a toss-up between premium high
  performance tires and springs + shocks.

  With regards to wheels and tires:  forget about wheels.  Bigger
  wheels usually increase rotational weight yet does not add much
  more to the contact patch.  The only thing you want to do there
  if you have the $$$ is to get very lightweight wheels in 16"
  size.  That will cut down on your rotational weight (better
  acceleration) and sidewall height (better steering response).

  Bear in mind a lot of the weight is in the tire, not in the wheel,
  so even if you get 11 lbs wheels, your 18 lbs tires will negate
  a lot of that low weight.

  With tires, go for high performance tires, for example, Pirelli
  P7000 or P-Zero, Yokohama AVS Intermediate or AVS S-1 or AVS
  Sport, etc.  They're the tires listed as "Max Performance"
  or "Ultra High Performance" tires on the Tire Rack Web site.
  (www.tirerack).

  With regards to springs/shocks, first of all, the best way to
  find out what suspension set-up is best for you is to find someone
  local who has a similar car with suspension mods, beg/borrow/steal
  a ride and see how you like that particular set-up.

  If you "only" drive aggressively on the street and do not
  participate in motorsports (autocrossing, track events, etc.),
  I would go for one the "medium" springs + shocks set-ups from
  Neuspeed, H+R, Shine Racing, etc.  I have Neuspeed Sport springs
  and Bilstein HDs and they have great comfort/performance balance.
  Get a rear sway bar (anti-roll bar).  Forget about stress bars.

  If you participate in motorsports, go for stiff-ish springs (350
  lbs/in or more).  I would start with 400 lbs/in at all four
  corners and Koni adjustables or Bilstein Sport shocks/struts.
  Remember that you can use spring rates to arrive at the desired
  roll stiffness, so there is less of a need to worry about
  which sway bar(s) to use.

-- 
Andy Nguyen \ aqnpanix \ 



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