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Wrong rear wiper relay on some Golfs

Wrong rear wiper relay on some Golfs

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Re: 98 Rear Wiper "A. Doblmaier" <ahdix17.ixcom> Tue, 13 Jan 1998 07:34:28 -0600 (CST)
Rear Wiper Solved! BrandonTwebtv (Brandon Taylor) Sat, 17 Jan 1998 10:27:35 -0600
[gti-vr6] rear wiper relay (was "Greetings all") jaymarterols Sat, 18 Apr 1998 23:26:38 -0500
Re: [gti-vr6] Torque Steer & Wipers jaymarterols Sun, 17 May 1998 01:39:06 -0500
[gti-vr6] Rear wiper deeceeexit109 Thu, 27 Aug 1998 20:39:14 -0400



From gti-vr6-ownerdev.tivoli Tue Jan 13 07:40 CST 1998
From: "A. Doblmaier" <ahdix17.ixcom>
To: gti-vr6dev.tivoli
Subject: Re: 98 Rear Wiper
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 07:34:28 -0600 (CST)
Cc: BrandonTwebtv
 
>> To begin with, my '98's rear wiper will notgo into intermittent mode.  I
>> have to engage the washer to clear the window MANUALLY every 10sec or so
>> when driving in the rain.
>

Interesting, my 98 worked the same way. The rear wiper wiped for a couple of
seconds and stopped - no intermittent feature. I thought the rear wiper
relay was bad and went to the dealer for a new one.

Turns out the relay was fine - but it was for a non-MFA equipped car (which
has a different wiper stalk obviously). I suspect the factory ran out of MFA
rear wiper relays, and stuck this one in. The dealer (Holberts) put the
correct one in and everything is fine.

The correct part number is 191 955 529 and the relay is in relay position 2
(second row up from the fuses, second relay position from the left.

I do not have the part number of the incorrect relay, however it had a
unique feature - there was an extra pin on the front(!) of the relay for
connecting a wire to the front of the relay. The new relay does not have this.

Hope this helps.
Tom
98 GTI (VR6)

PS. My car was manufactured 9/97.











From gti-vr6-ownerdev.tivoli Sat Jan 17 10:30 CST 1998
From: BrandonTwebtv (Brandon Taylor)
To: gti-vr6dev.tivoli
Subject: Rear Wiper Solved!
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 10:27:35 -0600
 
Ok, as promised here is a summary of my ordeal with my rear wiper.

For those tuning in late, my '98 GTI VR6 is supposed to have an
intermittent wiper cycle on the rear window.  Additionally, it should
have a washer cycle.  Only the wash cycle worked when I took delievery
of the car.  My dealer claimed that the intermittent cycle had been
discontinued, although all the information I had been able to lay my
hands on claimed otherwise (including my window sticker!)  After several
weeks on this group, and via phone with VWoA & my dealer, I got the
problem fixed, sort of...

Tom provided me with a relay number, which I had my dealer order and
install.  This was the only change made to my car, which of course was
made under warrantee (despite my radar detector being prominantly
displayed!)  Below is a description of the functions of each relay, and
part numbers.

#1H0 955 529 (Original part, could be letter "I" in 1st digit)  This
relay would not activate intermittent mode at all.  To move the rear
wiper, you had to squirt washer fluid.  After releasing the stalk, the
fluid would stop squirting, and the wiper would continue for 3-4
strokes.  That's it.  Additional pushes on the stalk would do the same
thing - squirt more fluid and reset the delay.

#191 955 529 (New part)  This relay will squirt fuild while pressed, and
start the wiper.  Once released, the wiper will make 1 more pass.  (I
still think this is wrong... should still be 3 passes)  If you press the
stalk again (While it is making the last pass) it engages the fixed
intermittent mode (Non adjustable).  In this mode, the wiper crosses
every ~3-4sec. until you press the stalk a 3rd time.  Note:  A side
effect seems to be that the FRONT wash cycle has also lost it's extra
swipes in washing (after releasing the stalk) :(

My dealer claims these are the same part, and that the original must
have been broken.  (BS - A broken relay doesn't function at all, it
won't screw up timing)  I am not happy about the loss of the extra
'strokes' when engaging the washer cycles, especially on the front
window!  I understand that there is a programmable relay somewhere,
which I would like to check out.  If anyone has info on this, please
E-mail me directly.  Thanks to all who have helped - rainy days will be
much more pleasant now!










From gti-vr6-ownerdev.tivoli Sat Apr 18 22:29 CDT 1998
From: jaymarterols
To: Stan Wong <stanwongslip>, GTI news group <gti-vr6dev.tivoli>
Subject: [gti-vr6] rear wiper relay (was "Greetings all")
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 23:26:38 -0500
 
I just had the rear wiper relay replaced on my '98 GTI-VR6. I was having the
same problem as you--no intermittent wiping. Here's the part number for the
relay my dealer installed (free of charge, BTW): "191955529  VW Relay"

My rear wiper now works properly. Your dealer should replace yours for free.

-Jason












From gti-vr6-ownerdev.tivoli Sun May 17 00:34 CDT 1998
From: jaymarterols
To: Timothy Welty <hotel_one_actualhotmail>, gti-vr6dev.tivoli
Subject: Re: [gti-vr6] Torque Steer & Wipers
Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 01:39:06 -0500
 
"Timothy Welty" <hotel_one_actualhotmail> asked:

>...  Has anyone had trouble with the rear wipers not working
>per the documentation?  When I push the levar away from the steering
>wheel it sprays once, wipes a few times, and stops.  I think I read
>somewhere this is a common problem and is related to a bad relay.

That's correct. I had the same problem with my '98 and had it fixed by my
dealer. Here's the part number for the correct relay, according to my
invoice: 191955529.

-Jason
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From gti-vr6-ownerdev.tivoli Thu Aug 27 19:44 CDT 1998
From: deeceeexit109
To: gti-vr6dev.tivoli
Subject: [gti-vr6] Rear wiper
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 20:39:14 -0400
 
Problems with rear wiper not working in intermittent mode. Must hold to
operate.  The wrong rear wiper relay was installed at production. The
correct relay should be 191-955-529.

Corrected as of vin  1HM_WM246290

Don
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